Ampeg V-4B: The All Tube Bass Amplifier

In the last couple of months, Drink the Long Draught has become much more tangible; you might say that we are now a band. With that realization comes a certain amount of excitement and the anticipation of playing live again. Except for the three songs Ant, Nic and I did at Jesse and Tara’s party back in January, it’s been quite a few years for me. In fact, I still have all the same equipment that I had in 1998, when I last played and recorded with The Fontanelles. The time has come to think about some new gear.

This upgrade process really took off when I went to Guitar Center to look for a case for my 1977 Gibson G-3 Grabber. I ended up trying out a bunch of new amp heads, including one of the Ampeg solid state models and the well known, tube driven SVT (model 3 Pro, I think). Ampeg has long had a reputation for exceptional bass tone; and today the company puts a good deal of effort into perpetuating the air of superiority that survives in the bass-playing world. Nonetheless, these amps sound quite good. I left the shop tickled with the idea of Ampeg but discouraged by the high price.

A few days later I found myself in Ken’s Music Center, my local store in Lititz, where I spotted a gorgeous looking Ampeg B-15 from the early 1960s. I asked to play through it, which they kindly obliged. Amazingly warm and solid, but still well defined. That tone, combined with the cunning flip-top design makes this one of the most sought after amplifiers for recording bass. But at only 30 watts—and with a price tag of $1300—I left the shop confused. I want this amp. It is not right for me. Damn.

Enter the Ampeg V-4B also known as Ampeg V4B or Ampeg V4-B

While fretting of the choice of bass amplifier, I found the product review database at Harmony Central to be really helpful for getting an overall impression of the various product lines. I honestly don’t know where I first came across the Ampeg V-4B, but I do remember someone writing that it was the next best thing to the SVT. Not long after that I found one for sale in Philadelphia—a 1973 unit with new power tubes, a new power cord and in rather nice shape for a 35 year-old amp.

The Ampeg V-4B is a two-channel, all-tube, 100-watt beast of an amp head. I weighs a good bit…maybe 70 pounds. Like many electronics of the early and mid 70s, the design of the cabinet and control face is Spartan—black and silver. On the far left are two input jacks. Five knobs in the center of the panel control channel 1 gain, channel 2 gain, treble, mid-range, and bass, respectively. Above the EQ knobs you’ll find three boost switches: High frequency boost; a three-position Mid-range boost that emphasizes 300Hz, 1kHz, and 3kHz; and Bass boost. Finally, on the far right are Standby, Polarity and Power switches, with indicator lights above standby and power.

Having spent several years playing bass through a Hartke 3500, I became accustomed to using—but never entirely happy with—the graphic equalizer. Sure, a graphic EQ is precise, but I tend to spend too much time fiddling with it. With the Ampeg V-4B controls, I find I can ‘dial in’ a very distinct tone in few seconds. The boost switches have a particularly dramatic effect on overall tone.

Around back of the Ampeg V-4B

First thing you notice from the back is that the amp chassis is upside-down, that is, the tube and transformers ‘hang’ down from the chassis/circuit board. I guess this is a fairly common design strategy that allows for, among other advantages, the positioning of the front panel controls near the top of the unit.

The back of the amplifier features two 10k Ohm line outputs, two external speaker outputs and a hum balance potentiometer. Also printed on the rear of the chassis are the tube designations. This unit uses a quartet of 7027 power tubes. I understand that 7027 power tubes were no longer made after some point (mid 1980s?). For that reason, many V4-Bs have been converted to use 6L6 power tubes. My unit was never converted; and the recent re-introduction of 7027 tubes by Sovtek means that this amp should sound as close to Ampeg’s original design as possible. (Barring the use of expensive vintage 7027 tubes).

The pre-amp section of the V4-B employs 2 12AX7 tubes, one 12AU7, one 12DW7, and a 6K11 tube.

But how does the V-4B sound?

Warm, creamy, and throaty, with a pleasant distortion at high gain. And that’s using my frakencabinet—what once was a Hartke 210 combo, from which I yanked the 3500 head, removed the carpet, cut off the head enclosure, and spray-painted a metallic charcoal. The drivers are missing their dust caps, too. This thing is ugly, but temporary; I’m sure the amp will be much happier with 4 or 6 10s, or 2 10s and a 15. The current set-up is ample for rehearsal.

Ampeg SVT-15E speaker cabinet on the way…

At our last rehearsal, I noticed that I was having a little trouble cutting through the guitar. A few samples of the rehearsal recording bore that out, i.e., it wasn’t just me. I think we all have a tendency to play more aggressively and crank up as we become more comfortable with our material. So it seems my 2×10 cab isn’t going to cut it for rehearsal; it starts to blat (I think then Jesse Lundy term was “shit the bed”) when the V-4B is set somewhere between 4 and 5 on the volume knob. I’d like more control of my tone and also avoid “digging in”, which I am prone to do.

« Here’s the Ampeg bass rig as it appears in July, 2008.

After some dawdling, I decided that I should add a 15-inch cabinet as the next step toward improving my sound. The band has an outdoor gig coming up at the end of July, and it is time to provide more power and presence. I’ve come very close to buying a new 4×10 bass cabinet, but since I have the 2×10 cab, I’d like to get some more use out of it…I am hopeful the SVT-15E will be the right complement. At 8-ohms and 200 watts, it seems like it should be a good match. And, if I ever need more power, I’ll replace the 2×10 with a 4×10…maybe a SVT-410HE.

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9 Responses to “Ampeg V-4B: The All Tube Bass Amplifier”

  1. Jeff Says:

    I have the same amp only replaced the tubes with kt-66 (EL-34s on steroids) Great sound same power limitations. I suggest getting a THD Hotplate and running the line out function into a large rack power amp. I use a 1000 watter. Run that into any 4×10 and you should be way good. I like that way more than using my SVTcl. Seems like a lot of extra gear but well worth it.

  2. NegativeEd Says:

    Ahhh… if you like that amp, see if you can find a Music Man 115RH loaded with a 15” EV. I got one used for about $175, it’s not too heavy, comes with wheels & sounds awesome.
    NEd

  3. NegativeEd Says:

    Shoot, forgot to add this. The V4 doesn’t need to be “converted” to 6L6’s. Check out Triode Electronics page, “Help My Amp Has 7027’s!” http://www.triodeel.com/7027.htm Also, Triode has decent prices on tubes & quick delivery.

  4. winston huggins Says:

    Have one v4 there is nothing like it was on a pevey before,long live ampeg.

  5. losmoran Says:

    Ah, So I have V4-B That I’ve had since 1976 with an 810 cabinet, I had it repaired a couple of times. Once the stanby switch got stuck in the on position and I played it that way for years I would just turn it off, The other time a busted fuse holder and a new power cord. I always liked it but always remembered the sound of the SVT. I stopped playing for some time (got a real job) but recently went to get together with some friends to give the old chops a work out, needless to say they need a lot of practice, Anyway the amp had a lot of noise (leaky cap) and I took it to a local guy who got rid of the noise but somehow the amp does not sound the same, there is no treble presence and does not seem to have any attack or punch. He says he set the bias correctly to the new old stock 7027A’s that I found on the web from some government surplus stock.
    Last weekend I went to someone’s house and there was an SVT-VR which just blew me away and quickly started to look for one. They’re very expensive!!!
    So, in the interim I found your blog and was glad to hear your fondness for the V4-B.

    I just think I may send it to NJ to get it checked out by Dennis Kager, he can bring it back to life.

    Thanks for the inspiration.

    Los

  6. Rich Says:

    JJ/Tesla now makes the 7027A power tubes for the Ampeg V4 and V4B amps. What a great amp. Match it with a pair of good 15′s for that thick classic rock bass sound.

  7. admin Says:

    Thanks for the tip, Rich. It’s almost time to re-tube my V4-B, and greater tube availabilty is definitely a good thing.

    I’ve been using an SVT3-Pro as my main gig rig lately, and a very happy with it. The tube preamp and driver give a nice warm tone and the solid state power section is a bit tighter and much more powerful than my V4. Still, the V4-B is a fine creation. I do love the high gain sound, particularly with my Gibson Grabber. It’s pretty tough.

    Ian

  8. Dr Krunkberry Says:

    Don’t F with the V4-B! SURE, the SVT is nice. You can pay a TON for one, and have a nice sound. You can also spend the same money on a PC and Pro Tools……but we are talking about a thing of History here. A Bass Monument.

    Why is it called the V4-b?

    Because of the origional V4. A guitar head. That kicked so much *ss BASSISTS had to have them. That is something to think about in itself! After realizing this, Ampeg created the v4-b. A thing of majesty. Thirty years later, STILL melting face.

    In my completely biased view, the V4-B is the reason Ampeg became the bassist’s rocket launchers of choice. Sure, you can dump a load of cash on the SVT and sit upon the modern throne of Pricey Provided Providence. Or you can spend time in the trench of historic elbow grease: find a V4-B andtube it out any and every way that scratches your itch.

    I fell asleep to this amp reverberating the heating ducts below my crib while my father practiced with his band. I played with my GI Joes all over it. I danced to it growing up. And ever since it was handed down to me five years ago I rock the thing out three days a week. Hard. Last year it fell off my stack (damn end-of-gig concrete door jam) four feet and landed flat on its face in a parking lot.

    The tubes didn’t even break. The metal corner gards have some new dimples. That is all. I still can’t believe it.

    I’ll stop. V4-B for life (or hernia from carrying. Then its time to hand it down to my son, buy an SVT and drive the complimentary Cadillac that comes with it).

  9. The Mac Says:

    I bought my 1977 V-4B and have since paired it with my 1975 (Eminence loaded) V-4 cab and I’ve played it at gigs with my 1972 810 Squareback (CTS loaded).

    You can have all the new, flashy gear you want. I LOVE MY Ampeg rig and it’s never leaving my possession. Mine still has all the original tubes (7027′s rock) and works like a champ.

    Pics of my stuff are at this website: http://www.ampegv4.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=ampegv4&page=6

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